Is HLS really supported ? Issues with Vimeo HLS in Flash

Julien Des 8 years, 10 months ago

Hello everyone :-)
I own a Vimeo pro account and I’m trying to setup a player on my own wordpress site to embed videos using HLS links provided by Vimeo Pro ( I need to prevent people from download my video streams, with plug in such as download helper or so…)
I see a very good question about that here : https://foliovision.com/support/fv-wordpress-flowplayer/how-to/play-vimeo-hls-videos. But this was left unanswered : It says you can embed videos from Vimeo, but I understand I does not concern HLS.

And while I’m searching fo HLS integration, I only see the Amazon tutorial about HLS. What about Vimeo’s HLS ?

So, back to my question, is HLS really supported by the commercial version of the player ? I wish I could nuy it if I had a clear answer.
Thx for your help.

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Martin 9 years ago

Hello Julien,

if you use our player like [fvplayer src="https://vimeo.com/12345678"] then it will automatically use HLS video for iPad/iPhone and MP4 for everything else.

Since you have Vimeo Pro account you can also use the HLS links which are provided like this: [fvplayer src="your vimeo URL here"]

That way you can be sure it will be HLS playing and nothing else. Flowplayer is now able to play HLS videos in Flash, so it will play even on desktop computers which don’t support HLS directly. The thread which you found is from a year ago when it was not yet possible.

Thanks,
Martin

Julien Des 9 years ago

Thanks for the update, and your quick answer.
I guess the free version do not handle vimeo HLS links then. I get the error “video not found”.
I followed your instructions to embed my HLS links.
The link from Vimeo looks like :
https://player.vimeo.com/external/153*****7.m3u8?p=high,standard&s=9130ded6d9341a9e03d32241a20240cc48f547db
I tried it with no luck
I also tried a sort of “short version” of it :
https://player.vimeo.com/external/153*****7.m3u8
still no luck

– I tried with both visible and invisible on Vimeo Pro
– I tried with domain restriction of vimeo pro (only my domain)

but maybe I must buy the premium player ? if the answer is yes, I buy it right now. I really need to serve my video with HLS to that people stop downloading my links.

Martin 9 years ago

Hello Julien,

I tried to insert one of our Vimeo videos that way – using the direct Vimeo Pro HLS file link – and I see if won’t work.

I’ll have to check again tomorrow in the office if it will play on Mac Safari, as I’m currently on Firefox which plays the video using Flash, as core Flowplayer 6 which we use supports that. Perhaps there is some additional layer of protection on these Vimeo HLS files which is not compatible with it.

I’ll also check if it plays with our Vimeo Pro integration.

Thanks,
Martin

Martin 9 years ago

Hello Julien,

I can confirm that the Vimeo Pro direct HLS link only plays in devices which support HLS natively – iPad, iPhone, Safari web browser on Mac and new versions of Android.

FV Flowplayer is able to play HLS also on any computer with Flash, however not these particular HLS streams from Vimeo Pro unfortunately. I tested JW Player here and I’m getting the same results.

Vimeo doesn’t seem to care much about this, they recommend you use the MP4 links for any external player: https://vimeo.com/forums/help/topic:103223#comment_9193268

The workaround is to open the HLS link in your browser and check where it redirects in the browser network panel. Example:

https://player.vimeo.com/external/46195780.m3u8?p=high,standard,mobile&s=64c504b85ee64c5d1b12e24f81ac7ca2a3ac7971 redirects to https://05-lvl3-hls.vimeocdn.com/1454678967-2eb326232deff04c3ae966b7d796388c45425bb4/01/4239/1/46195780/master.m3u8 – and that link can be used with our player. However I’m not sure if Vimeo ever changes this URL – the chances are it does, so I can’t recommend this as solution. The whole issue is caused by this redirection.

There are ways of downloading HLS stream, better option is to use encrypted HLS – something we are working on.

Thanks,
Martin

joerka 8 years ago

Hey Martin,
I’m currently checking different secure video streaming players & possibilities for my new company and just wanted to know if there are any updates to the whole Vimeo Pro HLS videos in FV Player topic!
I looked around this forum and the Vimeo forum as well, but couldn’t find any more information.

Thanks already now for your support,
Joerka

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