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transcript formating

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  • Edward 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hello,

    just noticed a little bug

    two lines between paragraphs when both empty subtutle & 2 sec. pause rules are applied together.

    https://prnt.sc/1v5fkyb

    Thanks,
    Edward

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  • Mária Stašová 4 years ago
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    Hello Edward,

    could you please send us the .vtt file you used, so we could investigate further?

    Either post the link here or send it as an attachment to support@foliovision.com

    Thanks,
    Maria

    Edward 4 years ago

    Hello Maria,

    the gap between subtitles is about 3 sec. https://prnt.sc/1xe2aj3

    This gives a line feed in the transcript. https://prnt.sc/1xe2qop

    Is this correct?

    How can I avoid this line feed? This pause (but not silence) can be caused by stuttering, sneezing, or the person is trying to find the right words, especially in another language.

    Thanks

    Mária Stašová 4 years ago
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    Hello Edward,

    I apologize for the delay.

    Do you have access to the .vtt file? It would help us a lot in dealing with the issue if you could share it.

    Thanks,
    Maria

    Edward 4 years ago

    Hello Maria,

    here is an excerpt from a file

    00:13:12.880 –> 00:13:15.156
    the end of the previous sentence.

    ==========
    00:13:15.618 –> 00:13:16.133
    /* empty subtitle before starting new paragraph, intentionally created */

    00:13:17.519 –> 00:13:19.892
    the beginning of the first sentence in the current paragraph

    /* here a long pause > 2 sec., it will be seen as a newline in the transcript*/

    00:13:22.240 –> 00:13:24.190
    the sentence continues

    00:13:24.880 –> 00:13:26.830
    next part of the same sentence
    ============

    I think the pause should be increased to at least three seconds as a quick fix. But this still does not solve the problem itself for formatted transcripts, where there may be various even more long pauses in live speech. This automatic line break is unnecessary for formatted transcripts.

    Thanks,
    Edward

    Martin 4 years ago

    Hello Edward,

    currently you can either use the automated transcript formatting or disable it (“Preserve original formatting” in editor).

    We will have a team discussion if it could be beneficial to have another setting.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    Edward 3 years ago

    Hello Martin,

    I think if both rules are found together in a formatted transcript: an empty subtitle and a pause of more than 2 seconds, then only the first rule should apply. Otherwise, you will see two blank lines between paragraphs.

    Thanks,
    Edward

    Alec Kinnear 3 years ago
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    Hi Edward,

    Thanks for highlighting this subtle issue. My inclination would be to ignore the silences completely. After a long pause like that, a new subtitle would show. If titles overlap in terms of time, again my inclination would be to auto-repair them as overlap of VTT is not really supported.

    I’m a big subtitle user (as I watch videos in many foreign languages and even prefer subtitles on my English language videos). I have not seen this kind of overlap practiced in any of the videos I’ve watched with subtitles across dozens of services.

    What I prefer in the case of very long subtitles is to put them all up on screen at the same time and leave them up for the entire duration of the performance, giving the viewer the opportunity to read and understand the complex subtitle and still to return to the image and back.

    Let me know your thoughts.

    Thanks, Alec

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