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I have to ask one question, that bugs me for a couple of last days: I use wp-pagenavi for blog navigation and I want to change the titles that are made for its navi pages. As I understood, these titles are created by FV All in One SEO Pack.
For these pages I get titles, that consist from Home Title + Paged Format (“- Part %page%” by default), but this creates a lot of duplicate titles on my blog, cause home title is used for all these pages.
So what I want is to make titles of my navigation pages not to use the Home Title, but just a Paged Format or Some Random Text + Paged Format. Is it possible?I hope u understand my question ;)
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Hello seoweb!
So your site has a lot of pages with URLs ragiong from http://example.com/page/2 up to http://example.com/page/200 and titles ranging from “Example blog – Part 2” to “Example blog – Part 200”, is that right?
And Google Webmaster tools or similar SEO utility is saying that you have too many similar titles? We suggest that you ignore warnings like this, just changing these titles by inserting some random text as you suggest would remove the warnings, but it makes no sense.
The issue here is that your blog has a lot of URLs which have /page/ in them, so that might lead search engines to assume that “page” is one of your keywords. We try to eliminate these issues on our some of our WP sites which are not really blogs by not providing the paging feature on the homepage and instead featuring the site content in few content boxes on the homepage. Each of these boxes might list one of the main categories and then link to archive for that category.
Thanks,
Martin
Hello seoweb!
So your site has a lot of pages with URLs ragiong from http://example.com/page/2 up to http://example.com/page/200 and titles ranging from “Example blog – Part 2” to “Example blog – Part 200”, is that right?
And Google Webmaster tools or similar SEO utility is saying that you have too many similar titles? We suggest that you ignore warnings like this, just changing these titles by inserting some random text as you suggest would remove the warnings, but it makes no sense.
The issue here is that your blog has a lot of URLs which have /page/ in them, so that might lead search engines to assume that “page” is one of your keywords. We try to eliminate these issues on our some of our WP sites which are not really blogs by not providing the paging feature on the homepage and instead featuring the site content in few content boxes on the homepage. Each of these boxes might list one of the main categories and then link to archive for that category.
Thanks,
Martin
Yes, u got the point of my question.
The thing is that title and its relevance to content is one of the most important internal factors. When u optimize the home page u usually try to get a max long title that would be perfectly relevant to the content of that page and raise for you traffic for your keywords. But when u use the same title for all these “navi pages” it just doesn’t work well at all, it even can sometimes lead to filters.
Using home title by default without the ability to change the way it works really does not make sense. Solution to me looks simple: just a checkbox “Don’t use Home Title for navi, but only Paged Format” will do the trick and give users a choice (same that u done with excerpts for descriptions).
Solution that you use is a nice idea, but sometimes it’s not acceptable for me for a couple of reasons.
the wordpress seo plugin solves the pagination issue automatically with tags approved by google.
what do you mean?
i also recommend you add no index follow for your paginated results
Thx, but that’s not exactly solving the issue with indexed dublicated titles.
If you have unique excerpts to every post in your blog, than you should not close your paginated results from indexation, cause when they come out from the main page they still can work pretty well and potentially be a good landing pages (and that’s when titles problem comes).
If you don’t write unique excerpts, but just auto generate them from the first few sentences of the post – that may be a solution.
You’re the first person I have come across who has thought that a paginated result in the SERP makes for a good landing page. Typically you want people to land on the page that most closely matches their search query (the actual blog post in most cases). If you’re targeting very competitive keywords and you can’t get the actual blog post to rank high enough,then the next best landing page would be the category page and then the homepage. Anyway, here is google’s advice on handling pagination for SEO. http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2011/09/pagination-with-relnext-and-relprev.html
Hello sean and seoweb,
thank you for all the links and you view on this.
I checked what Yoast is doing and it looks nice. WordPress actually puts in a good amount of link rel tags on single posts and pages by default. You can see the same set of link rel=”prev” and link rel=”next” tags in post head section on any WordPress site. I’m not sure how this fits into the advices presented in the article by Google. It links to next and previous post based on post date, so it’s there even when no paging is needed.
Thanks,
Martin
Maybe on some typical wp blogs paginated result can’t be a good landing page. Even more, it can cause problems, because of duplicated content. But if you have unique excerpts and your categories and tags are closed for indexation, than it completely changes this situation..
Google says that with this markup search will “Send users to the most relevant page/URL—typically the first page of the series”, so that will be the homepage. How hard in that case it would be for user to find the searched post?Anyway, I see how does it work and I still hope that this little title tweak will be some day implemented)
