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Scale Engine video hosting and SMIL

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  • smith234 11 years ago

    I get “Error: unable to determine file format” when using a Scale Engine hosted video:

    http://example.videocdn.scaleengine.net/scaleengine.smil?format=smil.jwplayer&streamname=sestore1/example/5-4-14.smil&application=example-vod/play

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  • Martin 11 years ago

    Hi Chan,

    I had a look at what you provided as the video URL. It’s actually some SMIL file for jwPlayer.

    Opening that file in a text editor reveals the stream details which you need to enter into our plugin:

    RTMP Server: rtmp://example.videocdn.scaleengine.net/example-vod/play
    RTMP Path: sestore1/example/5-4-14_432.mp4

    So then it looks like:

    [fvplayer rtmp="rtmp://example.videocdn.scaleengine.net/example-vod/play" rtmp_path="sestore1/example/5-4-14_432.mp4"]

    If you have your HLS M3U8 too, just add it into it as the video source. It will result in something like:

    [fvplayer src="http://example.videocdn.scaleengine.net/....m3u8" rtmp="rtmp://example.videocdn.scaleengine.net/example-vod/play" rtmp_path="sestore1/example/5-4-14_432.mp4"]

    Making the web work for you,

    Martin

    smith234 11 years ago

    That is a multi bitrate file for jwplayer. It lets them select witch bitrate to play. It doesn’t work with flowplayer that well. I just sent it because it asked me to. Do I need to enter that one info with rtmp or can I just out the link?

    I entered the shortcode which you recommended. It doesn’t play right when you click forward. I don’t know if it’s there server or the plugin.

    Martin 11 years ago

    Hi Chan,

    1) yes, multibirtate is something we want to support. Currently our FV Player Pro does support this, but it’s not working on the fly – you select your quality, that reloads the page and you get your desired video quality. Notice that your streams have a _432 or _720 postfix in file names:

    sestore1/example/5-4-14_720.mp4
    sestore1/example/5-4-14_432.mp4

    If that’s the case with all of your videos, then our technology would work perfectly here. We just need to improve it to work on the fly – like for example Youtube quality switching.

    2) Your video plays for me. What exact problem are you having?

    A couple of notes though:

    2.1) No need to include a separate mobile version for HLS M3U8 as HLS handles quality switching internally. However the one which you have is only single quality. Ask Scaleengine how to get the multiple quality HLS stream. Until you figure this out, it’s better to include a lower quality stream, just to make sure it plays well on mobile iDevices. 1280p video might be too much for older iPhone or iPad.

    Also, the mobile video applies to any mobile device and not every mobile device plays HLS (only iDevices actually). It’s best to use MP4 for mobile video.

    2.2) I would recommend that you use the lower quality RTMP stream by default, just to make sure it plays well on older computers.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    smith234 11 years ago

    Hello Martin,

    I’m also getting: “We recommend that you also provide your RTMP video in MP4 format.”

    When I enter my RTMP stream. The video is in mp4 format. This is a false error I think.

    Martin 11 years ago

    Hello Chan,

    yes, it’s an MP4 video, but it’s a huge difference if you serve it via RTMP or HTTP.

    It’s a problem with Scale Engine as well, as they don’t provide MP4 video over HTTP. So if you are not on a so called iDevice (required for HLS) and you don’t have Flash installed (required for RTMP), you can’t play the video.

    If you are on an old mobile, you can play RTSP (we plan to add support for it), but it still leaves a hole in making sure everybody can play the video.

    It’s still a good service as most people with such computers have Flash already because of Youtube, but I wonder what is the Scale Engine’s view on this.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    smith234 11 years ago

    They say to use jw player. I am sorry. I didn’t see most of these messages. I will use another company then.

    Alec Kinnear 11 years ago
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    Hi Chan,

    We recommend Vimeo Pro hosting at $200/year for unlimited videos. Our FV Player now wraps Vimeo Pro perfectly with no Vimeo chrome.

    Making the web work for you, Alec

    smith234 11 years ago

    Yes but we have music also with praise and worship. It would kick the video out. I tried to pro. Wouldn’t install.

    Stefan Caunter 11 years ago

    Just a couple of notes.
    Scaleengine provides RTSP delivery. Link is available in our embed generator.
    Scaleengine provides HTTP delivery on the order of 10 billion hits a month, but that is different than video streaming.

    smith234 11 years ago

    Do you think there is a bug in the flash part of your player though. I do notice that if it’s using the flash it stops and goes. It goes that on any computer viewing it. I tested it. It might have been the php was older I don’t know.

    Martin 11 years ago

    Hello Stefan,

    it’s great that you provide RTSP. Could you please provide a sample with the MP4 file delivered over HTTP?

    Hello Chan,

    do you mean that the playback is not continuous, but it plays fine for a second, then stops for a fraction of second and then plays again until it stops to buffer again?

    Perhaps increasing the buffer size would help. We can add such option in the next version, which should be out tomorrow.

    You can try to use the lower quality stream for now, that one should be less likely to cause buffering issues.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    smith234 11 years ago

    Yes that seems to be the problem with it. stops and start.

    smith234 11 years ago

    I am testing out Rackspace also. I didn’t see any buffering issues either but it’s html5 on mine.
    So the adobe adaptive will not work either? It would be nice to use that also to help people watch it better.
    Rackspace does have a ios streaming and streaming link is that rtmp. It has http though in the link not rtmp.

    Stefan Caunter 11 years ago

    Sample videos and smil

    RTMP
    rtmp://steftest.videocdn.scaleengine.net/steftest-vod/play/sestore1/steftest/techsnap-0105.mp4
    rtmp://steftest.videocdn.scaleengine.net/steftest-vod/play/sestore1/steftest/techsnap-0105-432p.mp4

    HLS
    “http://steftest.videocdn.scaleengine.net/steftest-vod/play/sestore1/steftest/techsnap-0105.mp4/playlist.m3u8”

    “http://steftest.videocdn.scaleengine.net/steftest-vod/play/sestore1/steftest/techsnap-0105-0432.mp4/playlist.m3u8”

    smil file is techsnapvod.smil, which describes content as follows:

    <smil>
    <head>
    </head>
    <body>
    <switch>
    <video src=”techsnap-0105.mp4″ system-bitrate=”912867″ width=”1280″ height=”720″ />
    <video src=”techsnap-0105-432p.mp4″ system-bitrate=”294506″ width=”768″ height=”432″ />
    </switch>
    </body>
    </smil>

    If you would like a test account, let me know.

    Martin 11 years ago

    Hello Stefan,

    what about the MP4 file over HTTP protocol? You mentioned something about “Scaleengine provides HTTP delivery on the order of 10 billion hits”, but I’m not sure if I understand that correctly. Is this available on standard user accounts?

    Thanks,
    Martin

    Martin 11 years ago

    Hello Stefan,

    also, is it possible to have a HLS with automated quality selection on Scale Engine?

    Thanks,
    Martin

    smith234 11 years ago

    I only saw three types, the only http was for hls, the others where rtmp and rtsp.

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