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VPAID | Non-Linear ads

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Foliovision › Forums › FV Player VAST › Troubleshooting › VPAID | Non-Linear ads

  • rehan007 10 years, 5 months ago

    Hello Team FV,

    I’ve been testing this release of VAST add-on. You guys have done good job. But I noticed that it is covering VAST mostly as its name suggests.

    I’ve found following problems:

    1. VPAID tags can’t be used in shortcode [fvplayer src="" vast=""]. Ad will not run because it needs flash. (VPAID tags can only be added globally using ‘FV Player VAST’ page in ‘Settings’ where you can set ‘Engine’ to ‘Flash’.)
    2. This add-on will not run non-linear ads on the video. Whereas to get approval from Google for ‘Adsense for Video’, you need to submit a webpage where player should be running the testing VAST/VPAID tag provided by Google. The problem is that tag is VPAID, so first, you’ve to run it globally, second, it casts non-linear ads which stays on the screen forever and video doesn’t play.

    Here is an example : http://donoftheworld.com/wp/?p=44

    Please fix them as they are big hurdles in getting approved from Google.

    Regards,
    Rehan

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  • Martin 10 years ago

    Hello Rehan,

    1) You can use [fvplayer src="" vast="" vast_engine="flash"]

    We will put that into documentation, but part of that should be in user interface, so we need to work on that.

    2) I can see the issue (it’s the VAST from http://ima3vpaid.appspot.com right?). When I play the video, the ad appears at the bottom of the player but no video plays.

    That VAST only contains InLine Linear VPAID ad. If it’s non-linear ad, why is it being served as Linear? Even the Google VAST testing tool is not able to display that properly here: https://developers.google.com/interactive-media-ads/docs/vastinspector_dual

    Could you please check that on your end? Does you have to use VPAID for these non-linear ads?

    On our end, we will make sure simple non-linear ads like the two Liverail Examples here work: http://www.iab.net/guidelines/508676/digitalvideo/vast/vast_xml_samples

    Thanks,
    Martin

    rehan007 10 years ago

    Thank you for the reply, Martin.

    I think I’ve mistaken in-line linear for non-linear ad… I would like to share this screenshot for what Google wanted me to do: http://prntscr.com/58l7oi

    That tag is automatically generating in-line linear ads and sometimes it generates the normal pre-roll (skip) ads….

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello rehan007,

    thank you for the screenshot, but it doesn’t explain why your ad tag uses VPAID SWF for a simple non-linear ad.

    We worked on adding Non-linear VAST support as mentioned above and it looks good so far. It looks nice when the ad is scheduled to kick-in 5 seconds into the video or so – just like YouTube ads do.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    rehan007 10 years ago

    1) Why is it using VPAID SWF to run a non-linear ad? I don’t know because Google is generating it and want us to incorporate that ad tag in player to setup a working webpage as an example. All this is required just to get approved for showing VAST/VPAID ads on videos.

    2a) So, that means non-linear VPAID ads which are flash-based aren’t supported by this player.

    2b) I’ve also tried using ‘Liverail’ non-linear VAST ads which are html5-based and it seems like they are also not supported by this player. They are also showing up but not video isn’t playing. (2nd video on the following webpage is a live example of this problem – http://donoftheworld.com/wp/?p=44)

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello rehan007,

    I found where you probably obtained the ad tag, it should be here: https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/6029601?hl=en

    What I get there is this: http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?ad_type=video&client=ca-video-pub-4968145218643279&videoad_start_delay=0&description_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&max_ad_duration=40000&adtest=on

    Which is largely different from what you get: http://ima3vpaid.appspot.com/?adTagUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogleads.g.doubleclick.net%2Fpagead%2Fads%3Fad_type%3Dvideo_image_text_flash%26client%3Dca-video-pub-4968145218643279%26videoad_start_delay%3D0%26description_url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.youtube.com%26hl%3Den%26max_ad_duration%3D40000%26adtest%3Don

    Notice that your ad tag appears to be served via some ima3vpaid.appspot.com tool which reads the original ad URL as ?adTagUrl=. It appears the purpose of this is to make it Flash compatible. Are you sure you need that? Have you opted somewhere that your player requires Flash ads?

    Also, according to this guide, “video_image_text_flash” in the VAST URL can be replaced with just “image_text_flash” and get the non-linear ads all the time, that helps with our testing: https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/3112148

    All of the above helps a lot with our testing. The support for HTML5 non-linear video ads is almost finished and we are working on Flash non-linear ads.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    rehan007 10 years ago

    Ah! Great Martin…..

    Yes, that ima3vpaid.appspot.com is converting that VAST url tag to VPAID url tag which requires flash… This sums it up…

    Thanks for helping out and explaining it well… :)) Here is final working example : http://donoftheworld.com/wp/?p=65

    I noticed that it sometimes comes up with random errors, such as:
    “Ad error: AdError 1009: The VAST response document is empty.”
    “Exceeds limit of 15 sec…..”

    ** As this problem has been solved… I want to talk on the license and pricing… can we do that via email?

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello rehan007,

    1)I can see that a video pre-roll plays on your sample page.

    However the non-linear ads were only fixed now and now we are in phase of testing. You can see our test here: https://foliovision.com/player/demos/vast-vpaid-ads#non-linear

    2) “The VAST response document is empty.” means that there is no ad available. Ad networks don’t have infinite number of ads which their customers want to get delivered, so sometimes there might be no ad at all.

    3) “Exceeds limit of 15 sec…..” – could you please send a screenshot of this?

    4) Licensing – sure just post your questions here and we will move that part of discussion into our support system.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    rehan007 10 years ago

    Hi Martin,

    I’ve checked the non-linear ad there on your link but there also the ad at the bottom is working but video is not playing.

    Coming to the ‘exceeds limit of 15 sec’ error, here is a screenshot of the console: http://prntscr.com/5adybr

    Regards,
    Rehan

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello Rehan,

    non-linear ad not playing: https://foliovision.com/player/demos/vast-vpaid-ads#non-linear What browser are you using? Are you sure it doesn’t play? Perhaps it only takes a bit longer to buffer.

    If the 15 seconds error only appears sparsely, it should be fine. If it appears all the time, then there must be a problem. Does it ever appear with the Google test VAST tag? http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?ad_type=video&client=ca-video-pub-4968145218643279&videoad_start_delay=0&description_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&max_ad_duration=40000&adtest=on

    We will answer the licensing questions.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    rehan007 10 years ago

    Non-linear ad is playing but not the video , here is a print-screen shot : http://prntscr.com/5amigv and I’m using Google Chrome v39 & IE v11.

    Regarding the 15 sec error, it happens only when you load the webpage for the first time and that also in Chrome (probably some cache problem). It never happened in IE.

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello Rehan,

    could you please try again? Just reload the page to see if it works now. Perhaps I forgot to increase the version to bust the cache. It works for me in the same browsers, Windows 7 and OS X 10.9.5.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    rehan007 10 years ago

    Yes, the non-linear ad is now working well with the video as both are playing fine on the demo page.

    I just tumbled upon another point & found that linear VAST ads are not working on mobile devices, is this a bug?

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello Rehan,

    great, if it works now, we should release the new version.

    The mobile support is on our list of things to do. Now that we support both HTML5 and Flash ads, with midroll configuration (not documented yet) and waterfall loading, it’s the right time to add this.

    Mobile devices are tricky though, we can start with iPad and Android 4. iPhone (except for the latest one with iOS 8) and Android < 4 uses its built-in player to play the video, so I’m not sure if we can serve ads there yet.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    rehan007 10 years ago

    Hi,

    Mobile support will be great as more & more users nowadays use mobile devices to surf internet and watch videos.

    Regards,
    Rehan

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello Rehan,

    FV Player VAST 0.2.9 was released, so you can use your non-linear ads now. If you don’t see the upgrade available in your WordPress, just refresh it a couple of times, or get the new version at https://foliovision.com/edit using your licensed account.

    Mobile support is high on our list.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    Ron 10 years ago

    Are there any updates with regards to using “Mobile VAST XML” in the settings? Does FV Flowplayer VAST support mobile yet via shortcode?

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello Ron,

    we are working on the mobile support right now. So far it works with everything except the quality switching, so we are working on that.

    Perhaps we can make the mobile support an option and release the new version sooner, so you could use it if you are not using quality switching.

    Thanks,
    Martin

    Alec Kinnear 10 years ago
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    Hi Martin,

    Let’s get ad support out to mobile without quality switching. Quality switching is not that important for mobile (and problematic) as you know.

    Making the web work for you, Alec

    Ron 10 years ago

    Agree Martin/Alec,

    I think most of us get that this is a new product. I am willing to deal with a few bugs to start using mobile VAST now. I really like the player so far and think you guys are doing a great job.

    Ron

    Ron 10 years ago

    Martin:

    Any updates on adding Mobile VAST XML? I have been checking for updates.

    Martin 10 years ago

    Hello Ron,

    we made you a beta tester in our system, so you can now get our latest stable beta version of FV Player VAST by clicking the (beta) link in https://foliovision.com/edit -> My Products -> FV Player VAST.

    This will give you a fv-player-vast-beta.zip file. It’s advisable to install this version, but keep the original one deactivated so you can then switch back to it if you find a big issue.

    With basic videos (mp4 video, directly linked) it works for us in:

    * iPad with iOS 5.1.1, iOS 7.0.1, iOS 8.1
    * iPhone with iOS 6.1.6 and iOS 7.0.1 – won’t play the ad if it’s skippable, but the playback works
    * Android 4.3 with Chrome 39.0.2171.93
    * Android 4.3 with built-in browser – doesn’t play the ad, but the playback works

    I checked your site and you are using a VPAID ad. Mobile will only work with HTML5 VAST ad. Simply put up the VPAID Flash ad as the first one in Settings -> FV Player VAST and then put in the HTML5 ad as second by using “Add more”. Mobile device will know if won’t play the Flash ad, so it will skip to the HTML5 ad.

    If your VPAID ad returns empty, desktop browsers with Flash will get to the HTML5 ad as well.

    You can use the following VAST ad for testing: https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=640×360&iu=/6062/iab_vast_samples/skippable&ciu_szs=300×250,728×90&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=xml_vast2&unviewed_position_start=1&url=%5Breferrer_url%5D&correlator=%5Btimestamp%5D

    Thanks,
    Martin

    Ron 10 years ago

    Great. I have a test tag for HTML5. I assume once they release the HTML5 tag to me I can run all ads on HTML5 without the need for a mobile specific ad.

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